Comments on: Talk About Mudflaps http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/ The adventures of Joshua M. Neff, Librarian of Tomorrow! Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:01:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: K.G. Schneider http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15211 K.G. Schneider Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:30:38 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15211 Good post. My feminist sex-positive woman-loving self struggles to even have these discussions, so I'm glad to hear you weigh in. Good post. My feminist sex-positive woman-loving self struggles to even have these discussions, so I’m glad to hear you weigh in.

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15213 josh Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:44:27 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15213 Thanks, Karen! My feminist sex-positive woman-loving self also struggles with this stuff, as does my feminist sex-positive wife. Thanks, Karen! My feminist sex-positive woman-loving self also struggles with this stuff, as does my feminist sex-positive wife.

]]> By: sarah mae http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15224 sarah mae Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:05:05 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15224 There is a fine-line between sexy and sexist and I don't think a library campaign is really the place to test those boundaries. I consider myself to be a sex-positive feminist and a sexy librarian but that doesn't mean I want naked ladies representing the services I provide. It makes me wonder what exactly are they are "shifting gears" toward? There is a fine-line between sexy and sexist and I don’t think a library campaign is really the place to test those boundaries.

I consider myself to be a sex-positive feminist and a sexy librarian but that doesn’t mean I want naked ladies representing the services I provide.

It makes me wonder what exactly are they are “shifting gears” toward?

]]> By: Woeful http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15285 Woeful Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:48:56 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15285 The real question is, did the ad work? Sex sells, this isn't anything new. If they wanted visibility they got it! What is the purpose of any ad? To sell a product or service. Did the ad increase their business? If it did it worked, whether anyone likes it or not. Never underestimate the power of mindlessness, often times it's what the masses long for... The real question is, did the ad work? Sex sells, this isn’t anything new. If they wanted visibility they got it! What is the purpose of any ad? To sell a product or service. Did the ad increase their business? If it did it worked, whether anyone likes it or not. Never underestimate the power of mindlessness, often times it’s what the masses long for…

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15288 josh Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:31 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15288 I don't think that's the <i>real</i> question. Even if the advertising works, it still doesn't justify the use of the image. I don’t think that’s the real question. Even if the advertising works, it still doesn’t justify the use of the image.

]]> By: Darlene Foat http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15325 Darlene Foat Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:27:10 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15325 All vehicles should have 2 mud flaps. If you want to be fair have one female and one a beefcake. Or, just have "Get smart. Read. Use your libraries" on the mud flap. Who is paying for these? All vehicles should have 2 mud flaps. If you want to be fair have one female and one a beefcake. Or, just have “Get smart. Read. Use your libraries” on the mud flap. Who is paying for these?

]]> By: jennimi http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15333 jennimi Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:19:35 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15333 Thanks for saying what I was a little afraid to say. Is it a Gen X thing to be sensitive to this stuff? Is that a good thing? I cringed when I first saw the ad and my reaction didn't get better... despite the fact I REALLY admire and respect many who sang its praises. Thanks for saying what I was a little afraid to say. Is it a Gen X thing to be sensitive to this stuff? Is that a good thing? I cringed when I first saw the ad and my reaction didn’t get better… despite the fact I REALLY admire and respect many who sang its praises.

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15340 josh Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:34:27 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15340 Darlene, I would love to see trucks with mudflaps that said "Use Your Library" on them. (And thanks for commenting! That's my mother-in-law, everyone!) Darlene, I would love to see trucks with mudflaps that said “Use Your Library” on them. (And thanks for commenting! That’s my mother-in-law, everyone!)

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15343 josh Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:42:05 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15343 Jenn, is it a Gen X thing? I'm thinking it's not. (Hey, Karen, is this a Gen X thing?) But it probably is an upbringing thing. I know that coming from a feminist family had was a strong factor in my reaction to the image and its use. And I also admire and respect people who have liked or been apathetic to the image. I haven't lost my respect or admiration for them, but I just can't look at the image and think "Great! Thumbs up!" or "Meh! What's the big deal?" Jenn, is it a Gen X thing? I’m thinking it’s not. (Hey, Karen, is this a Gen X thing?) But it probably is an upbringing thing. I know that coming from a feminist family had was a strong factor in my reaction to the image and its use. And I also admire and respect people who have liked or been apathetic to the image. I haven’t lost my respect or admiration for them, but I just can’t look at the image and think “Great! Thumbs up!” or “Meh! What’s the big deal?”

]]> By: Woeful http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15373 Woeful Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:37:51 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15373 LOL... Only someone who works for a non-profit would ever think like that! Any ad executive would tell you that you often need to alienate hundreds or thousands to gain million$... And their shareholders thank them. LOL… Only someone who works for a non-profit would ever think like that! Any ad executive would tell you that you often need to alienate hundreds or thousands to gain million$… And their shareholders thank them.

]]> By: lis.dom » Blog Archive » mudflap woman http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15397 lis.dom » Blog Archive » mudflap woman Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:27:36 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15397 [...] reactions to the campaign, but quite frankly, I’m tired. I appreciate the variety of opinions I’ve seen, many of which have affected the way I think about the issue. But [...] […] reactions to the campaign, but quite frankly, I’m tired. I appreciate the variety of opinions I’ve seen, many of which have affected the way I think about the issue. But […]

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15400 josh Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:07:37 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15400 Yes, that's one of the reasons why I work in public service and not in the corporate world. I think there are more important things in life than profits and capital, and I don't think the ends justify the means. Yes, that’s one of the reasons why I work in public service and not in the corporate world. I think there are more important things in life than profits and capital, and I don’t think the ends justify the means.

]]> By: ray http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15474 ray Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:52:29 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15474 Side note: Please tell me the title of this post comes from that Spinal Tap song. Side note: Please tell me the title of this post comes from that Spinal Tap song.

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15475 josh Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:02:27 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-15475 Ray, you win a kewpie doll! It does indeed come from "Big Bottom" by Spinal Tap. Ray, you win a kewpie doll! It does indeed come from “Big Bottom” by Spinal Tap.

]]> By: Brian http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-16964 Brian Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:18:23 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-16964 Very insightful; I'm frequently torn on this topic as well, and it's difficult to even find active, rational discussion about the odd role sex and promotion-by-sexual-imagery holds in our society. Very insightful; I’m frequently torn on this topic as well, and it’s difficult to even find active, rational discussion about the odd role sex and promotion-by-sexual-imagery holds in our society.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-28735 Nicole Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:47:51 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-28735 I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I have two cents to add. Obviously, from my name, you can tell I'm a woman. I am also a graduate of the University of Wyoming, so I lived in the state for four years. I didn't find the mudflap image offensive. I thought the use of the image to be a humorous way to advertise the Chilton auto repair database. These bumper stickers were sent to auto repair shops with information about the database, not plastered on billboards. Frankly, the half-naked women in their underwear on the billboards in Times Square bother me more. I’m coming to this discussion very late, but I have two cents to add. Obviously, from my name, you can tell I’m a woman. I am also a graduate of the University of Wyoming, so I lived in the state for four years. I didn’t find the mudflap image offensive. I thought the use of the image to be a humorous way to advertise the Chilton auto repair database. These bumper stickers were sent to auto repair shops with information about the database, not plastered on billboards. Frankly, the half-naked women in their underwear on the billboards in Times Square bother me more.

]]> By: josh http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-28736 josh Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:13:31 +0000 http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2007/09/22/talk-about-mudflaps/#comment-28736 You may be coming in late, Nicole, but I appreciate your input. I think this is a complicated issue. I was obviously offended by the image, but it would be even more offensive if I were to say that all women should be just as offended as I was. Thank you for chiming in with your point of view! You may be coming in late, Nicole, but I appreciate your input. I think this is a complicated issue. I was obviously offended by the image, but it would be even more offensive if I were to say that all women should be just as offended as I was. Thank you for chiming in with your point of view!

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