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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.goblin-cartoons.com/2010/02/12/harshing-my-buzz/comment-page-1/#comment-187024</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, I agree, companies that run social sites definitely have their own views of privacy. Some of their views may jibe with popular views, but they&#039;re also driving the way people view privacy. Much like how mainstream media drives what people expect from news and entertainment.
Beth, you&#039;ve got it. Google is great at engineering &amp; managing data, but they suck at designing social stuff.
Rick, I don&#039;t trust Google at all. It&#039;s a company. It&#039;s ultimately driven by profits, not people&#039;s well-being. I still use Google for searching, email and other things, because they design good products in that regard. But trust them? Hell no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, I agree, companies that run social sites definitely have their own views of privacy. Some of their views may jibe with popular views, but they&#8217;re also driving the way people view privacy. Much like how mainstream media drives what people expect from news and entertainment.</p>
<p>Beth, you&#8217;ve got it. Google is great at engineering &#038; managing data, but they suck at designing social stuff.</p>
<p>Rick, I don&#8217;t trust Google at all. It&#8217;s a company. It&#8217;s ultimately driven by profits, not people&#8217;s well-being. I still use Google for searching, email and other things, because they design good products in that regard. But trust them? Hell no.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Reno Neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Reno Neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust Google for or with anything. I&#039;ve tracked the way they assign value to sites as responses to search queries. Apparently it&#039;s easy to buy off Google, and one can load the value of a site other ways. Unfortunately, I haven&#039;t bothered tracking the other search engines, so I have no comparison.......yet. I&#039;m looking for a decent, usable alternative to Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust Google for or with anything. I&#8217;ve tracked the way they assign value to sites as responses to search queries. Apparently it&#8217;s easy to buy off Google, and one can load the value of a site other ways. Unfortunately, I haven&#8217;t bothered tracking the other search engines, so I have no comparison&#8230;&#8230;.yet. I&#8217;m looking for a decent, usable alternative to Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think your last paragraph hit the nail on the head. Google is a company of engineers - not designers, not usability experts, engineers. And Buzz is oh-so-obviously an engineer&#039;s solution to social networking. I don&#039;t really think there&#039;s any malice there on the part of Google, just simple cluelessness. But it does point out Google&#039;s limits.
They are awesome at pulling together, managing, and presenting vast quantities of general data. That&#039;s why their search engine rocks. That&#039;s why GMail and Reader rock. That&#039;s why Maps rocks so hard it blows every other online mapping service out of the water.
What they are not so hot at is understanding the social side of data, because the social stuff is hard to engineer - maybe it can&#039;t be engineered in the traditional sense because it needs to concentrate more on the human, rather than the technological. Engineering alone isn&#039;t enough (neither for that matter, is design or a usability study). If you want to make something social, you&#039;ve first got to understand people. Google hasn&#039;t quite figured that out yet. And given the company culture, maybe they won&#039;t ever figure that out (which would be a pity). But until they do, I don&#039;t think they&#039;re ever going to get the social space quite right.
So yeah, if their next big launch is yet another social thing, I&#039;m probably going to do just what I did with Buzz - turn it off. If it&#039;s something that plays more to their strengths, I may find it useful. Either way, I know what Google&#039;s good at what what Google is not so good at, and I can use its services accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think your last paragraph hit the nail on the head. Google is a company of engineers &#8211; not designers, not usability experts, engineers. And Buzz is oh-so-obviously an engineer&#8217;s solution to social networking. I don&#8217;t really think there&#8217;s any malice there on the part of Google, just simple cluelessness. But it does point out Google&#8217;s limits.</p>
<p>They are awesome at pulling together, managing, and presenting vast quantities of general data. That&#8217;s why their search engine rocks. That&#8217;s why GMail and Reader rock. That&#8217;s why Maps rocks so hard it blows every other online mapping service out of the water.</p>
<p>What they are not so hot at is understanding the social side of data, because the social stuff is hard to engineer &#8211; maybe it can&#8217;t be engineered in the traditional sense because it needs to concentrate more on the human, rather than the technological. Engineering alone isn&#8217;t enough (neither for that matter, is design or a usability study). If you want to make something social, you&#8217;ve first got to understand people. Google hasn&#8217;t quite figured that out yet. And given the company culture, maybe they won&#8217;t ever figure that out (which would be a pity). But until they do, I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re ever going to get the social space quite right.</p>
<p>So yeah, if their next big launch is yet another social thing, I&#8217;m probably going to do just what I did with Buzz &#8211; turn it off. If it&#8217;s something that plays more to their strengths, I may find it useful. Either way, I know what Google&#8217;s good at what what Google is not so good at, and I can use its services accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just wanted to work in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/noanchov.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the J. Geils lyric&lt;/a&gt;, didn&#039;t you?
I&#039;d argue it&#039;s not just Google, but a general dismissal of privacy concerns in the tech industry. Witness &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_zuckerberg_says_the_age_of_privacy_is_ov.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Zuckerberg talking about the changes to privacy settings for Facebook&lt;/a&gt; as &#039;reflecting social norms&#039; (ignoring the fact that they become norms by social networking services establishing them), or pundits like Jeff Jarvis barking about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/may2009/ca2009058_754247.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;self-appointed privacy advocates&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just wanted to work in <a href="http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/noanchov.htm" rel="nofollow">the J. Geils lyric</a>, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue it&#8217;s not just Google, but a general dismissal of privacy concerns in the tech industry. Witness <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_zuckerberg_says_the_age_of_privacy_is_ov.php" rel="nofollow">Mark Zuckerberg talking about the changes to privacy settings for Facebook</a> as &#8216;reflecting social norms&#8217; (ignoring the fact that they become norms by social networking services establishing them), or pundits like Jeff Jarvis barking about <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/may2009/ca2009058_754247.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;self-appointed privacy advocates&#8221;</a>.</p>
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